To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. Similar articles on suits, jackets, shirts etc are desperately needed. She tried Orbans but they were stiff as hell. Break-in was tough. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. You are using an out of date browser. , yet they settle for shoes at a, relatively speaking, much lower level. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. So all in all a shoes that looks good, but not a feel good shoe. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. I'm interested in branching out from C&J to Carmina so I'll be paying attention to this thread. Like I said, it wont work for everyone, but might be an option if on a budget. I also happen to like their lasts, which are sleeker than anything else I own but the C&J 348. Carmina shoes come with better finishing than the Meermin shoes. Theyre both very big brands now.. Take your size in any standard UK shoe (Cheaney, crockett, loake, alfred Sargent, churchs) and add half a size. What I had in mind though was a roundup like this one with Jespers input. TLB (above) is a good example of how much more dynamic the Spanish shoe market is than the English. Good point Ben, Im not sure. Simon, I was wondering what are your thoughts on Sanders. When you see and feel the quality that you are getting with these shoes, Im sure that you will feel pleased with your expenses. @ Matty, if your initial post was relatively friendly and good natured Im sure you would have gotten a similar reply. One thing I could never understand is why, from lower to higher price points, RTW makers dont provide more width options. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. After further research I stand by my words. Maybe this section could be titled North America rather than United States. The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. They have a lot of life left in them. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. I started out with Allen Edmunds because they offer reasonably priced shoes (for Americans) with decent quality. Its just a selection of brands, and focus were on cheaper shoes than J. FitZpatrick (although he has a new lower-priced range coming). Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, So in order to create a frame of reference, I phoned Jesper Ingevaldsson, who writes the website, These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and, The English brands at this price level are, The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like, . Hence, vanity wins (maybe). Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. Thats the opposite advice I received on rain from someone else. Is there a reason for that? C&J do not run their own shops. Could not find info. In addition to the Artista line you allude to, they also have a great customization program. It is tough to find quality hand-welted shoes for the price that Meermin shoes are being sold for. I think it makes sense for C&J to stick to making shoes and not running shops. Can I Put Birkenstocks in the Washing Machine? The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. But in the same moment, I realised this was unfair. Particularly for certain watches perhaps, although less likely for certain muted bespoke suits which might fit better but wont look more expensive than a good of-the-peg one. Overall, Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. Low arches but not flat. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. Initially I tried 9E because many people recommend 1/2 size down and 1 width up for this last. Significantly roomier fit than the 65 last so, even though they don't fit my foot shape well, they're reasonably comfortable. Snug in thick socks. Chunky, comfortable, and with nice make but the suede itself is nothing special, certainly worse than Crownhill in the same price range. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Lovely article! For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. Your mentioning Jesper`s financial interests is interesting would more call this commercial however. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. **The older 2040s are tighter, because of the older style of heel pad, if you find it too tight I recommend considering swapping out the heel pads. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . Thank you for this listing Simon. I have loafers on their Xim and they're too big for my by a hair. I used DT cushioned boot socks at the time. If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. Yanko 915 3 eyelet derby 9.5UK: Probably more form fitting and snug than tlb or carmina (probably due to sizing down) but near perfect in shape. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. Little bit of heel wiggle room. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. I just don't love Rancourt's boot patterns and overall build. They didn't gave Detroit EEE in stock so I couldn't try it. I am asking because this difference has never really been clear to me. Id be interested to see a reference for the made in Asia comment in the article. Being from the UK my first proper pair of shoes at University were a pair of Loake 1880s they were fine and really all I needed at the time. In fact, it is the favourite last for the Albaladejo family. Grant Stone Oliver 9D: Great fit. Foster & Son get this so much better with their RTW. Can you please comment on the poor quality of English soles mentioned. You know what youre getting. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Im sure PS readers would disagree! They make shell cordovan shoes and boots for under $450 (sometimes as cheap as $350 ), which is basically unheard of in 2019. It requires more knowledge to be able to see the difference between welted shoes at different stages of the quality segment, in general. Theyre good at marketing and following trends in particular, and have done very well in recent years. Very hard to break in and stiff leathers. I have some upcoming which Ill be updating once arrived. The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. Brilliant. Thats generally why so many people, or at least readers, like shoes from these other brands. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Very snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides; too much vertical space even with tongue pad, resulting in lots of heel slip and overlapping facings. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. While I have no problem wearing RTW tailoring that is cheap relative to the bespoke stuff you discuss on the website, with shoes I found it impossible to go back to cheaper brands once I got my first EGs. Never felt loose. They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. My next purchase would probably be one from G&Gs classic collection, but I can hardly justify buying another shoe when I have 2 brand new pairs (another Meermin and Trickers) which remain unworn due to quarantine. I have wide feet (I wear 8EEE on the 65 last in Allen Edmonds) so almost none of the regular lasts fit me, except for Forest 7.5EEE. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. Its an entirely stupid thing to say, not least because most of the leather used on the soles of English shoes are from European tanneries. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. Alden TruBalance 9D: Its just so good. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. Meermin shoes are also very comfortable due to the relaxed feel of their Double Insoles System but they are not as comfortable as the Carmina shoes. Ostmo Moe 43.5: Tried these on and this was a bang on size. Very comfortable, great instep for oxfords, * **Trickers W2298** 8UK a bit tight at the toes, perfectly snug everywhere else, * **Trickers 4444** 8UK tiny bit of heel slip, fits like a dream at the ball, * **Thomas George Jackas** 7.5UK a bit roomy. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. regards judging quality by calf not suede? Unstructured toe box feels a touch low, * **Yanko 955** 7.5UK fits snug but comfortable with thin socks to start. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. And in pictures I can see a difference in appearance, at least in terms of shape and design, but I am not sure if there is much of a difference elsewhere (I get that bespoke and such will fit nicer). Were the shoes more structured I would go with 9.5D. Ive only been reading PS for a few months, and I immediately got hooked to the point that I spend my free time reading past articles in order to catch up. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. Try Saphir Shoe-Eze, it actually works. Hi Simon, do you know if JM Westons shoes are at a similar level to Crockett&Jones Handgrade? But there is also some variation in what you get. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. When you go to shoe shows like Micam, the Berwick stand is always the one that's crowded.. The quality would probably tell more in the calf than the suede too, so makes sense to do it that way around. Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. I have had a very different experience with EG service. Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. Related/unrelated, I find myself in flux style wise right now in the early stages of coming out of Covid. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. Ended up selling years later. Although the quality is nothing to write home about, they are incredibly comfortable. Great read Simon. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Stretched to become a bit too loose with heel slip note these are unlined, * **Yanko 915** 8UK, a bit loose at the heel, * **Zonkey Boot Classic** 8UK great fit but stiffeners are stiff, Brannock: 9D/E (on a printed paper brannock). I have found Robert (admittedly in sales, not specifically costumer service) to be accommodating in every respect; answering scores of questions over a months long decision making process. Im happy I earn enough now to not care about this market segment any longer. F. E. F. Extra-wide. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! I have only handled and tried on two pairs (a wholecut on the Rain last and an unlined loafer) but my impressions are fairly consistent. Additional notes: Heel-to-toe is 10, width on the border of D/E; heel-to-ball is 11. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. It has a bigger heel and is slightly shorter than 2030, but not enough to warrant sizing up. Crockett & Jones, Churchs, John Lobb, Joseph Cheaney etc. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. Crownhill is decent stuff as well, especially the material level for the price is good. Actually Im surprised Crownhill wasnt mentioned here, I thought they were quite popular. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. Does anyone know if English makers tend to have wider heels than their Spanish (or other continental counterparts). I have to disagree. Carmina shoes are well-fitting shoes that grip your feet firmly on the go so that you get more balance and stability in your motions. Porter?). I acknowledge I am emotionally attached to AE, it was the first quality brand I could access. I'll update this list as I get new stuff in too. If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. It might be somewhat boring, but the greatest shoe design can be quite a disappointment when theres puckering on seams, marks on the leather or misaligned stitching. Thanks EL. AE is a company around 100 years old and about thrice Aldens turnover, I always heard that only second to it in quality in the US, so that seemed odd. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. There arent many industries where youre so often buying direct from the maker, and having little additional costs along the way. Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. Heel is kind of big for an oxford shoe it turns out, stick to a boot for this last. No stretch sir. I would like to recommend Trading Post in Japan. It depends what else you have of course, but a dark brown or slimmer overall look is more likely to be more useful,.and certainly better for suits. Moderate arch. 10 Best Ortholite Replacement Insoles (Reviewed in 2022), 11 Best Water Shoes for Water Parks | Footslide, Highly-Durable Shoe Construction and Design, Meermins dont last as long as Carmina shoes, You can get most Carminas for cost prices between 341 and 407, You can buy Meermin shoes for prices between $160 and $210. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. I suspect 8UK would have been better, * **Enzo Bonafe 74945** 8UK perfect fit, snug around the heel and ball with a comfortable instep but still toe room, * **Enzo Bonafe 804** 7.5UK fits a bit better than 8UK, 8UK has a lot of heel slip in shell boots, * **Enzo Bonafe 062** 8UK fits similarly to 804 7.5UK. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. They also have thin rubber soles throughout, which some people like more, but is cheaper as well.. E. D. E. Wide. 11D would've been better out of the box but CXL is very forgiving. Even though mine are lace-ups, breaking in has actually been very easy and I also feel like they are totally worth the money. Theyre the only pair from this collection that I got out of the box and went wow. A couple of years ago, I returned two pairs of Oxfords that needed resoling after less than ten wears each. For more comparison, check these pairs out:CARMINA SHOESMEERMIN SHOES. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. It could be far more expensive than the cost of a single pair if theyre so much more comfortable as they are for you as it would make it harder to wear the shoes are own currently. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. Ive around 20 pairs of Carmina, 2 of C&J mainline and a dozen of C&J hangrade. Very comfortable throughout the midfoot. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. Carminas Quality Control is definitely another trait that makes these shoes better than Meermin shoes. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. Thankfully, that isnt true of all high end companies that Ive experienced and, in general, I have found that the quality of the service matches that of the product. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? Bought before I understood my size. Our builds will give about .25 size in the long run, on average. Overall, would you have a favourite among these brands? Regarding AE, theres certainly been a change since their most recent acquisition in 2017. In addition they come in some very handsome styles. Using these focus points, lets get into the comparison of these two shoe brands: Also, the materials of the Meermin shoes are flexible and stretchable enough to accommodate most feet. **Renav has inconsistent sizing it turns out. Their sole is often thinner compared to the English brands (eg CJ etc), which works fine during the warmer summer months. Theres a lot of marketing in this entry-level market: everyone says their shoes are handcrafted, using the best materials.. Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which arent as good as Spanish brands in general. Trickers appears to have a wider breadth to me, especially in country shoes and boots in lots of leathers and colours. I have a pair of MacNeil long wings made in 1977, two years before I was born, that I acquired used and had resoled. I am surprised that you didnt cover Italian brands in more detail given their popularity. Indeed the leather is really stiff. The toe length isn't excessive either. Thus, not likely to be much different from your C&J in terms of make, but the last and the leather may differ. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. I find that you almost always get what you pay for when it comes to goodyear welted shoes and both of these shoemakers are a big step up from all the budget tier brands I have tried in terms of materials, fit, craftmanship and durability. However, when I visited meermin pop up in London, I dont think I would ever get a black box calf from them! Switching to thin socks gives a very relaxed fit. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. The subreddit about quality footwear. You may learn more here. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. Bought before I understood my size. The two brands are roughly the same level of make, with the price difference largely coming down to costs of labour in the UK and Spain. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, stable, flexible, durable, and stylish than the Meermin shoes. p.s. JF main line would definitely be in Spain 1. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. This is what separates them from the suit debate. Pepe Albaladejo runs Meermin with his father Jose, who founded the company in 2001 by selling through the legendary shoe mecca that is Tokyo's Isetan department store. And it seems like, that level of service pervades the company. Ive never been sure if I am just more accepting of shoe prices or if I am proportional as I bulk at the idea of spending 400 on a jumper but happy to buy C&J main line. Im looking forward to stopping by! So much so, that one of the heels fell off during normal use. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. Especially compared to other Spanish or Italian shoes, which are also a bit softer than the English., North America: Spier & MacKay, Allen Edmonds, Cobbler Union, John Doe. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. The instep is high, but massive on the service boot pattern. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. Thats interesting. Some can only be purchased at high upcharge compared to what they cost in Europe, while some can be bought from European retailers with free shipping, VAT deducted and no customs charge (as long as below $800) so they come out 15-20% cheaper than they cost in Europe. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Looking at the Genova last. They have done a small amount of RTW for a while, its just enlarged recently. These are sockless only. Might not be the same for everyone, but many who havent tried bespoke shoes would be very happy once they do, that Im quite sure off. AE has excellent customer service to this day. Maybe I experimented with them too early. Hi Simon, you mentioned at the top that Carmina doesnt use plastic heel stiffener. I think the short answer is that yes, it is expensive to add an extra width across all shoes. Loake make some shoes in India, 1880 range is made in UK. Loake Bullet last (F-fit): 7Uk fits but a bit tight around toes. Id like to add a little comment on the Vietnam shoe makers here. Low instep fits me perfectly. Meermins are stylish shoes, but they are also quite practical as well. Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. Its a long time since Ive worn shoes at that price level, and I simply have no frame of reference. I have owned shoes from most of the English brands, and 5-10 Spanish brands and 5-10 Italian brands, and its a quite clear difference (but again, there are exceptions in both directions. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. Putting that all aside, what do you think is the difference between mid-range makers (e.g. A nice watch is also showing something. (For a RTW dark brown oxford, although I could stretch my budget a bit more, up to 400 euros). document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. Somehow lower instep than E? And all the time there are new makers trying to offer quality for a little less, for a saving of 50 perhaps - or trying to up their quality at the same price. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. Meermins have also been fine, especially for suede loafers. Not a thick sock last. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. You get slightly better quality with Carmina at a cheaper price. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. A very nice pair of black cap toes on the Eton last but far to hard to break in. The Alden cordovan color of the shoe is achieved by a plastic pellicule which shaves rather quickly to reveal a light brown leather underneath. Altra Lone Peak 3.5: 12D, weirdly enough. May have been fine with thinner socks. Sadly brands like Edward Green, Lobb and Cleverly are now so beyond my price point that I wonder if theyre now in the realm of diminishing returns? Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. second chance thread), https://www.instagram.com/sartorially_inclined/, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/wholecut-boots-black-boxcalf-80518, Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. Side-note: >90% of the sneakers I've worn over the years have been 10D, mostly Vans growing up and later Asics. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. 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